Did the upside down exist before 1?

There's been debate as to whether or not this scene implies that Eleven created the Upside Down or merely opened the first gate to it. But according to Millie Bobby Brown, the Upside Down existed before El ever meddled with it.

When did the upside down start?

Somehow, the Mothergate's creation also caused the Upside Down to transform from its original state and become a perfect copy of the human world, exactly as it existed on November 6, 1983.

Did number 1 create the upside down?

Given everything we've learned about the show's mysteries thus far, this final conflict has been brewing since long before Will Byers (Noah Schnapp) ever went missing in Season 1. Eleven may not have created the Upside Down, but it's been targeting her and her friends for longer than we realize.

How come the upside down is in the past?

One explanation for why time in the Upside Down is frozen, rather than flowing ahead to 1986 like in the real world, could be the impact of Eleven opening that first gate. The outburst of power she used and the deep emotions that were running through her were enough to shock the Upside Down into time standing still.

What was the upside down before Vecna?

One theory -- such as the Screen Rant article -- has suggested that the Upside Down was hive minded before Vecna got there. So, when he took over the Mind Flayer, he took over the entire dimension.

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Was Vecna a human before?

Vecna was born as a human, centuries ago as a member of the untouchable caste in the Flan city of Fleeth on Oerth. He was initially trained by his mother, Mazzel, in the art of magic, before she was executed by the government of Fleeth for practicing witchcraft.

How did 1 turn into Vecna?

In a fit of rage, Henry used his restored powers to brutally murder the other test subjects and workers, and attempted to do the same to Eleven. However, Eleven stood her ground and ultimately overpowered him, sending him through a gate to the Upside Down; there, he gradually transformed into the being known as Vecna.

Who first entered the upside down?

The first known human contact with the Upside Down was in 1979 during Eleven's fight with Vecna. During the match, Eleven was able to overpower Vecna, using her psychic abilities to keep him pinned to the Rainbow Room wall as his body disintegrated.

Who created upside down?

Who Created the Upside Down? In the "Stranger Things" timeline, the earliest we see the Upside Down is during Eleven's time in the Hawkins National Laboratory when an experiment guided by Dr. Brenner results in her accidentally opening the gateway between our world and the hellish dimension on the other side.

When did Eleven send 001 to the upside down?

September 8, 1979: Henry plots the Massacre at Hawkins National Lab, and Eleven sends him into the Upside Down.

Who was Vecna before?

In episode 7, Vecna is revealed to be Henry Creel (played as a youngster by Raphael Luce), the son of Victor Creel (Robert Englund) and his wife Virginia (Tyner Rushing) shown in the 1950s flashbacks.

How did 008 survive in Stranger Things?

In season 4, Peter Ballard notes that Kali was no longer at the lab in 1979. Given Kali's powers, it seems pretty self-explanatory as to how she was able to escape the lab. She either made herself invisible or was able to escape after manipulating the minds and visions of the guards.

Who is Vecna 001?

The final scene of Volume 1 shows a shot of Vecna, and a close up of the 001 tattoo on his arm, confirming that Henry Creel, a.k.a. Number One, became Vecna.

Did Vecna take Will in season 1?

Vecna was the one who originally kidnapped Will in season 1.

How old was 001 when he became Vecna?

001 is is 32-years-old in 1979

Given the fact he was born in 1947, around the time of the Hawkins lab massacre he was 32. A lot of people think the Upside Down has been a thing for absolute years but that doesn't necessarily mean Vecna has too.

Is number 1 the Mind Flayer?

From the information we got during the Stranger Things 4 finale, we can conclude that Henry Creel is the one calling the shots; in fact, Henry is the Mind Flayer.

How long was Vecna in the upside down?

We still don't know why Vecna waited seven years after being banished to the Upside Down before starting his murderous rampage. At this point, I'm not sure we ever will. However, it's not like Vecna was twiddling his tentacle-y thumbs for seven years.

How did they make 11 look younger?

It can probably be explained by a body double and deepfake technology being used to recreate scenes in the past. "We used an amazing actress who played my body," Bobby Brown explained in an interview with MTV, published in June.

How did 001 get his powers?

Dr. Brenner's children were granted powers by treating their mothers with psychedelic drugs during pregnancy. Henry Creel appears to be different, however; there's no evidence his mother ever experimented with LSD. Rather, his powers seem to be natural, developing around puberty.

What is the original of the upside?

This is a remake of the French film The Intouchables (2011). In Germany and The Netherlands, it was the most successful French film in history. The same story has also been filmed as the Argentinian film Inseparables (2016).

How old is Vecna?

Provided he actually ages in the Upside Down, Vecna could be in his late 30s in 1986, the year that Stranger Things season 4, volume 1 takes place. Vecna became a monster seven years prior, when Eleven defeated the adult Henry Creel, a.k.a. Number One, at Hawkins Lab and he became banished to the Upside Down.

Why did Vecna just start killing?

Vecna did not just kill his victims he haunted them with their traumatic past before completing the deed but his 1986 victims were the only ones who were not tortured before their death. The main reason could be that Vecna was powerless during that period and killing them was the only way he could escape.

Why is Vecna's hand so big?

Vecna's Hand

This is a reference to the D&D character Vecna, for whom this Vecna is named; the D&D Vecna has a monstrous hand infused with dark magic. The design of Vecna's hand is also a nod to Freddy Krueger, the Nightmare on Elm Street villain who had a huge influence on this season in general.

Who did Vecna killed first?

Vecna's first big credited kill was Chrissy Cunningham (Grace Van Dien). He followed that murder with canonically terrible driver Fred Benson (Logan Riley Bruner) and basketball star Patrick McKinney (Myles Truitt).